At 21:28 2004.02.09, Roger wrote:
The Hebrew Old Testament doesn't prescribe marriage ceremonies: but does acknowledge gay couples. --
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In the Bible, God nowhere set up statu[t]es for a priest to marry couples. In fact, any couple that was in a long lasting relationship was considered married. Generally, when it says a man married a woman, the Hebrew word used says the man took the woman.
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The Bible does record a verse that shows that not all unions were between a man and a woman: “If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or your lawful wife, or your friend, who is as your own soul, entices you secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which you have not known, you nor your fathers;” (Deuteronomy 13:6 Lamsa). [*] The underlined words your friend, who is as your own soul in the Aramaic literally means: “your lover according to your soul [emotion(s)].” The word rakh-ma, translated here as “friend,” also means a loved one (in a relationship), as shown here: “His mouth is like sweet honeycombs; his garments are lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.” (Song of Solomon 5:16 Lamsa).
At 22:14 2008.06.22, Mike wrote:
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Confirms this view of Leviticus[*], explaining that the Hebrew mish-che-be in Leviticus 18,22 and Leviticus 20,13 is "beds" [plural], and that "the 'beds of a woman' may be referring to a practice which still occurs in some parts of Libya. A married couple has three beds: the man's bed, the woman's bed and the marital bed. So, the beds of a woman would be her bed and the marital bed" ... leaving a husband free to entertain a male partner in his own bed.
www.hebrewoldtestament.com/
Leviticus 18,22 uses MShKBY ...
www.hebrewoldtestament.com/
and Leviticus 20,13 uses MShKBY too.
[*] -- King James Version
Leviticus 18
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Deuteronomy 13
6 ¶If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
... we shall stage our first public enactment of the Eastern Church's adelphopoiesis ceremony for uniting same-sex couples. We'll include the Catholic Ordo ad Fratres Faciendum too
The Hebrew Old Testament doesn't prescribe marriage ceremonies: but does acknowledge gay couples. --
www.
In the Bible, God nowhere set up statu[t]es for a priest to marry couples. In fact, any couple that was in a long lasting relationship was considered married. Generally, when it says a man married a woman, the Hebrew word used says the man took the woman.
...
The Bible does record a verse that shows that not all unions were between a man and a woman: “If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or your lawful wife, or your friend, who is as your own soul, entices you secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which you have not known, you nor your fathers;” (Deuteronomy 13:6 Lamsa). [*] The underlined words your friend, who is as your own soul in the Aramaic literally means: “your lover according to your soul [emotion(s)].” The word rakh-ma, translated here as “friend,” also means a loved one (in a relationship), as shown here: “His mouth is like sweet honeycombs; his garments are lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.” (Song of Solomon 5:16 Lamsa).
At 22:14 2008.06.22, Mike wrote:
Well, for your information, Leviticus says (pretty much the same in both verses that appear to condemn homosexuality), "And with a male do not lie sexually in the beds of a woman" - ie, it is a conditional statement, with both clause and condition, the condition being that you shouldn't do it in the beds of a woman - and that is the only restriction. ...
www.
Confirms this view of Leviticus[*], explaining that the Hebrew mish-che-be in Leviticus 18,22 and Leviticus 20,13 is "beds" [plural], and that "the 'beds of a woman' may be referring to a practice which still occurs in some parts of Libya. A married couple has three beds: the man's bed, the woman's bed and the marital bed. So, the beds of a woman would be her bed and the marital bed" ... leaving a husband free to entertain a male partner in his own bed.
www.hebrewoldtestament.com/
Leviticus 18,22 uses MShKBY ...
www.hebrewoldtestament.com/
and Leviticus 20,13 uses MShKBY too.
[*] -- King James Version
Leviticus 18
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Leviticus 20
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Deuteronomy 13
6 ¶If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
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